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Poster: deadmax Date: Mar 14, 2010 9:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Which 5/72 is better?

I've listened to 5/16 and 5/18 and both are stellar. I haven't gotten any further and I don't want to compare them to any other shows just each other. Almost the entire show from 5/16 is hot and now I'm wondering about 5/18. I thought 5/16 was better but now I"m listening to 5/18 again and again and again. The Good Lovin is splendid. TOO>SMBH>SM from 5/16 is stupendous. THE SMBH from 5/18 is a wonder as well.

I could go on for quite a while with this.

Any thoughts?

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 14, 2010 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

5/18 has one of the finest Dark Star's ever performed.

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Poster: Shooting Dark Star Date: Mar 14, 2010 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

One week earlier in Rotterdam has what I feel is an even better Darkstar. Check out 5/11. Not the spaciest Darkstar but quite probably the jazziest, with lots of different jams throughout. It's long, very long. But each jam has it's own theme, and the segue together perfectly.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 14, 2010 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

Just my oponion Max, but I find the Radio Luxembourg show more compelling. In spite of the rather dramatic, Phil driven Dark Star peformed in Munich at the following performance, I find 5/16/72 more inspiring. Perhaps its better executed musically, or maybe its the stellar sound sound quality and ultra-lively mix.

The Radio Luxembourg show, featuring one of the best ever pre-1973 performances of China/Rider and a dynamic Other One, may not be among the very best performances in Europe of '72, its up there in the second tranche. I think the subsequent Munich performance is about average for that tour. 5/16 is a touch better in my opinion.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 15, 2010 1:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

That was my first ever live show on tape, after someone gave me Live/Dead.
I like it too.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 15, 2010 5:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

The sound quality of 5/16/72 is astonishingly good. Perhaps the very best of all of what circulates from the Europe '72 tour and I dare say including the official releases? Its got a live wire mix!

The show is bit shorter compared to other performances on the tour. But all the numbers are extremely well executed and are played at a tempo just a bit faster than was normal for that tour, giving it a vibe just a bit unique to the other Europe shows. Definately my favorite China/Rider of the tour, the Truckin' and Other One are both stand outs as well.

Although the Radio Luxembourg performance is not jammed at the level of the very best shows like Tivolis and Rotterdam, its up there. And while there wasnt a bad note played on that entire tour, that Munich performance on 5/18, is indeed excellent with a fine Dark Star> Morning Dew, it still falls just a touch short in my opinion.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 15, 2010 6:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

Jerry's solo in MAMU is pretty sweet, imho.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Mar 14, 2010 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

Well now I don't know what to think. I agree with you Cliff and Ganges. They are both outstanding shows and I just might have to go back and forth between them.

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Poster: ganges Date: Mar 14, 2010 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

Hi deadmax, 5-18 must be better because I WAS there!

Just kidding, but I really was there (the 2nd of my 3 shows) and now I looked at my notes, I have just listened to 5-16 recently. I do like 5-18 better, excellent Dew, SMBH and Jack Straw, very good versions of Sugaree, Rider, Ramble on Rose and Sugar Mag – there’s a great SMBH in the 5-16 show but overall I go for the 18th.

38 years ago, what a long trip since then. I had been to the famous Jahrhunderthalle show some weeks earlier and was blown away, had been waiting for the band to come over here for quite a while – and then they played for almost 4 hours. At the time I had seen quite a few of the big bands of the time like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Santana, Zappa, TYA, Deep Purple etc. and they would all play for 90 minutes or something like that, well some of them maybe a little longer (and some less). It was amazing. I even taped the Munich show with a more than simple recorder and would listen to the show again and again, the only one I had except the official albums, and then lost it a long time ago. Thanks for asking!

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Poster: deadmax Date: Mar 14, 2010 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Which 5/72 is better?

Well I'm glad I asked and such fond memories could be evoked.

I might have to agree with you. I THOUGHT 5/16 was a 6 when I heard it but 5/18 is just dripping with "IT". From Dark Star to OMSN in the second set it is pure bliss. The IKYR from the 16th is better in my opinion and the SMBH from the 16th almost made me cry. The Other One was very hot also and the whole first set was near perfect.

But it seems on the 18th that they are opening up little pockets of space and time and carefully dropping the notes in EXACTLY where they need to go. The BT WIND is one of the best and it is this show where SUGAREE starts to take off. GOOD LOVIN is really different and musical, almost a mix of the 60s and the 80s. Two other standouts from the first set are HURTS ME TOO and YOU WIN AGAIN - not your usual suspects but listen again and you'll see what I mean.